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		<title>By: Art</title>
		<link>http://www.tabletop-terrain.com/archives/2006/08/28/657/mold-making-tutorial-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-3540</link>
		<dc:creator>Art</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2006 02:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stu,

I worked as a professional model maker in the rapid-protyping industry for 8 years.

Following your tutorial - you are only a little short of a really good two part mold.

I would recommend taking a hex key - 3/8&quot; making about 50-60 impressions in clay - roughly 1/8&quot; to 1/4&quot; deep. Then you spray release and then pour urethane into the depressions. When cured - sand the bottoms smooth and then mount them to the bottom of your mold box - these will provide the registration for the other half of the mold. These can be reused over and over again.

Flip the mold and demold only the registration pegs per your tutorial. We then used drywall/sheetrock joining tape wrapped and then taped around the now bottom half of the mold to provide the &quot;pour box&quot; for the other half. Spray the prepped bottom half with pattern release and pour the other half of the silicone rubber.

Once cured - demold all of the masters.

When pouring the urethane pour enough into both mold sides paying attention to not underpour either side - then in essence &quot;slap&quot; the two halves together matching registration pegs.

Hope this helps!
Art</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stu,</p>
<p>I worked as a professional model maker in the rapid-protyping industry for 8 years.</p>
<p>Following your tutorial &#8211; you are only a little short of a really good two part mold.</p>
<p>I would recommend taking a hex key &#8211; 3/8&#8243; making about 50-60 impressions in clay &#8211; roughly 1/8&#8243; to 1/4&#8243; deep. Then you spray release and then pour urethane into the depressions. When cured &#8211; sand the bottoms smooth and then mount them to the bottom of your mold box &#8211; these will provide the registration for the other half of the mold. These can be reused over and over again.</p>
<p>Flip the mold and demold only the registration pegs per your tutorial. We then used drywall/sheetrock joining tape wrapped and then taped around the now bottom half of the mold to provide the &#8220;pour box&#8221; for the other half. Spray the prepped bottom half with pattern release and pour the other half of the silicone rubber.</p>
<p>Once cured &#8211; demold all of the masters.</p>
<p>When pouring the urethane pour enough into both mold sides paying attention to not underpour either side &#8211; then in essence &#8220;slap&#8221; the two halves together matching registration pegs.</p>
<p>Hope this helps!<br />
Art</p>
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		<title>By: Stu</title>
		<link>http://www.tabletop-terrain.com/archives/2006/08/28/657/mold-making-tutorial-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-3539</link>
		<dc:creator>Stu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 20:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Art, yes it&#039;s for a one sided, open faced mold. I&#039;m mastering and casting 15mm terrain most of the time so one sided molds are sufficient for that.

I have tried garage two sided molding in the past, but as I said in the tutorial usually find the resulting casts a little disappointing. Mainly because of problems with registering the two mold halves and pouring with resin/plaster. 

I imagine using a more rigid high-temp RTV product and pouring with white metal you could probably get reasonable results. I may try this in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Art, yes it&#8217;s for a one sided, open faced mold. I&#8217;m mastering and casting 15mm terrain most of the time so one sided molds are sufficient for that.</p>
<p>I have tried garage two sided molding in the past, but as I said in the tutorial usually find the resulting casts a little disappointing. Mainly because of problems with registering the two mold halves and pouring with resin/plaster. </p>
<p>I imagine using a more rigid high-temp RTV product and pouring with white metal you could probably get reasonable results. I may try this in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Art</title>
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		<dc:creator>Art</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 16:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stu,

This is the best tutorial I have seen online for silicone rubber moudling.

Just want to confirm - this tutorial for an open faced - single piece mold?

Have some ideas for you on two piece molds - if you are interested.

Art</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stu,</p>
<p>This is the best tutorial I have seen online for silicone rubber moudling.</p>
<p>Just want to confirm &#8211; this tutorial for an open faced &#8211; single piece mold?</p>
<p>Have some ideas for you on two piece molds &#8211; if you are interested.</p>
<p>Art</p>
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		<title>By: Stu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 09:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice idea with double mixing pots there Phil. Hmmm I may try that in the future. Pouring from a good height is another. I forgot to add that in the text but you can see me pouring from a reasonable height in the photo.

I use that &#039;overflow&#039; technique for actual resin and plaster pours but prefer to estimate mold volumes for RTV. That also means I can make sure the RTV will cover the masters to a satisfactory depth.

I don&#039;t use any &#039;mechanical assistance&#039; in my mold pours and casts but I can imagine what you&#039;re talking about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice idea with double mixing pots there Phil. Hmmm I may try that in the future. Pouring from a good height is another. I forgot to add that in the text but you can see me pouring from a reasonable height in the photo.</p>
<p>I use that &#8216;overflow&#8217; technique for actual resin and plaster pours but prefer to estimate mold volumes for RTV. That also means I can make sure the RTV will cover the masters to a satisfactory depth.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t use any &#8216;mechanical assistance&#8217; in my mold pours and casts but I can imagine what you&#8217;re talking about.</p>
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		<title>By: PitYak Studios</title>
		<link>http://www.tabletop-terrain.com/archives/2006/08/28/657/mold-making-tutorial-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-3533</link>
		<dc:creator>PitYak Studios</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 09:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good one Stu

Another tip to ensure your RTV is thouroghly mixed; once you&#039;ve mixed it, pour the rubber into a fresh container and mix again. Any unmixed mix wil be left in the first pot. Pouring from a good height here will also get a few bubbles out.

Rather than estimating the amount to mix, I just make a very rough guess at the volume of the box then measure out a fixed volume of rubber and hardener. This makes the mix more accurate, and hopefully leads to longer lasting molds. Like you said,it is better to add extra hardener than not enough, but too much will make for stiffer molds with shorter lives. To avoid any waste I always have more boxes ready than I expect to be able to fill, so any excess will always have a box to be poured into. As you say, rubber will bond totally to itself, so it&#039;s no problem to top up a half finished mold later.     

I&#039;ll go into the operation of the Viblomatic 3000 later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good one Stu</p>
<p>Another tip to ensure your RTV is thouroghly mixed; once you&#8217;ve mixed it, pour the rubber into a fresh container and mix again. Any unmixed mix wil be left in the first pot. Pouring from a good height here will also get a few bubbles out.</p>
<p>Rather than estimating the amount to mix, I just make a very rough guess at the volume of the box then measure out a fixed volume of rubber and hardener. This makes the mix more accurate, and hopefully leads to longer lasting molds. Like you said,it is better to add extra hardener than not enough, but too much will make for stiffer molds with shorter lives. To avoid any waste I always have more boxes ready than I expect to be able to fill, so any excess will always have a box to be poured into. As you say, rubber will bond totally to itself, so it&#8217;s no problem to top up a half finished mold later.     </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll go into the operation of the Viblomatic 3000 later.</p>
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		<title>By: Stu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 08:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard, that&#039;s a touch painful! Unfortunately mistakes are the best way to learn anything imho :(. I&#039;ve only had a couple of molds go bad:

One where I undermixed the catalyst and it stubbornly refused to set, even after a week. That was a mess to clean off my masters for sure.

Another where I peeled the mold too early and the interior was still gummy. It came away from the masters fine but totally ruined the mold.

Definitely try it again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard, that&#8217;s a touch painful! Unfortunately mistakes are the best way to learn anything imho :(. I&#8217;ve only had a couple of molds go bad:</p>
<p>One where I undermixed the catalyst and it stubbornly refused to set, even after a week. That was a mess to clean off my masters for sure.</p>
<p>Another where I peeled the mold too early and the interior was still gummy. It came away from the masters fine but totally ruined the mold.</p>
<p>Definitely try it again!</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Clyne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Clyne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 08:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried making a mould a year ago and screwed up the ratios of RTV and catalyst.  It was suposed to be a 10:1 and I mixed it as 100:1 !

Your articles have made me think about retrying making a mould.  Thanks for the advice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried making a mould a year ago and screwed up the ratios of RTV and catalyst.  It was suposed to be a 10:1 and I mixed it as 100:1 !</p>
<p>Your articles have made me think about retrying making a mould.  Thanks for the advice.</p>
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		<title>By: Stu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 07:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Btw Haywire on the Flames of War forums made the interesting point that some molders use dry rice to estimate the mold volume.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Btw Haywire on the Flames of War forums made the interesting point that some molders use dry rice to estimate the mold volume.</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn Carpenter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shawn Carpenter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 00:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait. Resin casting requires patience? Man, am I screwed!

Again - excellent work. Clear, concise, and helpful. Now I just have to wait a week to go home and TRY this stuff.

In the meantime, hola from Seattle!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait. Resin casting requires patience? Man, am I screwed!</p>
<p>Again &#8211; excellent work. Clear, concise, and helpful. Now I just have to wait a week to go home and TRY this stuff.</p>
<p>In the meantime, hola from Seattle!</p>
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