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	<title>Comments on: Orc Border Patrol &#8211; Warhammer</title>
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		<title>By: Griff</title>
		<link>http://www.tabletop-terrain.com/archives/2009/03/10/893/orc-border-patrol-warhammer/comment-page-1/#comment-15229</link>
		<dc:creator>Griff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 01:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More amusing?
You mean you bitch less?
;-)
xxx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More amusing?<br />
You mean you bitch less?<br />
;-)<br />
xxx</p>
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		<title>By: Stu</title>
		<link>http://www.tabletop-terrain.com/archives/2009/03/10/893/orc-border-patrol-warhammer/comment-page-1/#comment-15036</link>
		<dc:creator>Stu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah it&#039;s still just as much fun as when I was playing your Brettonians and Brent&#039;s Chaos Knights. Orcs and Goblins are a bit more amusing to play than Undead though I&#039;ve been finding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah it&#8217;s still just as much fun as when I was playing your Brettonians and Brent&#8217;s Chaos Knights. Orcs and Goblins are a bit more amusing to play than Undead though I&#8217;ve been finding.</p>
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		<title>By: Griff</title>
		<link>http://www.tabletop-terrain.com/archives/2009/03/10/893/orc-border-patrol-warhammer/comment-page-1/#comment-15026</link>
		<dc:creator>Griff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 00:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh...
Border Patrol....
Brings back memories....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh&#8230;<br />
Border Patrol&#8230;.<br />
Brings back memories&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Dustan</title>
		<link>http://www.tabletop-terrain.com/archives/2009/03/10/893/orc-border-patrol-warhammer/comment-page-1/#comment-14941</link>
		<dc:creator>Dustan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 22:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lazy or not, I&#039;m trying not to buy models until I finish my current mountain (no, realy it is) of back log. I have always planned to dip a lot more but cant seem to five up the brush... so to speak. The idea of using multiple different shade washes appeals though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lazy or not, I&#8217;m trying not to buy models until I finish my current mountain (no, realy it is) of back log. I have always planned to dip a lot more but cant seem to five up the brush&#8230; so to speak. The idea of using multiple different shade washes appeals though.</p>
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		<title>By: Monty</title>
		<link>http://www.tabletop-terrain.com/archives/2009/03/10/893/orc-border-patrol-warhammer/comment-page-1/#comment-14939</link>
		<dc:creator>Monty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 21:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been unable to paint any more figures up due to working away over the last two weeks, however, I will do a couple more this weekend and publish them. I intend to trial the painter system with 15mm figures too; I really can&#039;t be bothered with all the highlighting/dry brushing etc anymore - I suppose I&#039;m just lazy...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been unable to paint any more figures up due to working away over the last two weeks, however, I will do a couple more this weekend and publish them. I intend to trial the painter system with 15mm figures too; I really can&#8217;t be bothered with all the highlighting/dry brushing etc anymore &#8211; I suppose I&#8217;m just lazy&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Stu</title>
		<link>http://www.tabletop-terrain.com/archives/2009/03/10/893/orc-border-patrol-warhammer/comment-page-1/#comment-14938</link>
		<dc:creator>Stu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 18:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well there&#039;s an Aussie company that sells it and ships to NZ. Anybody want to chip in and we&#039;ll split a tin or something?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well there&#8217;s an Aussie company that sells it and ships to NZ. Anybody want to chip in and we&#8217;ll split a tin or something?</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://www.tabletop-terrain.com/archives/2009/03/10/893/orc-border-patrol-warhammer/comment-page-1/#comment-14925</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 04:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How have we not found out about The Army Painter system before?  I know its just a professional variation on Dustan&#039;s idea but I think even I could finish an army if that was all I had to do...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How have we not found out about The Army Painter system before?  I know its just a professional variation on Dustan&#8217;s idea but I think even I could finish an army if that was all I had to do&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dustan</title>
		<link>http://www.tabletop-terrain.com/archives/2009/03/10/893/orc-border-patrol-warhammer/comment-page-1/#comment-14919</link>
		<dc:creator>Dustan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 22:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had writen a NZers guide to dipping on pityak forums, i decided to make a copy of it on your forums Stu

http://www.tabletop-terrain.com/forum/index.php?topic=822.0</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had writen a NZers guide to dipping on pityak forums, i decided to make a copy of it on your forums Stu</p>
<p><a href="http://www.tabletop-terrain.com/forum/index.php?topic=822.0" rel="nofollow">http://www.tabletop-terrain.com/forum/index.php?topic=822.0</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rob Singers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Singers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 21:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The trick to airbrushing is to use the right paint.  If you can get the Gunze Sangyo paints - GSI Aqueous Hobby Color it&#039;s a hell a lot easier.  Bog standard Tamiya thinned with Tamiya thinners is good too.  I&#039;ve stopped using spray primer and just prime with Tamiya from the air brush.  The coverage is better, and it has a good tooth.

If you want to use GW paints the only way I&#039;ve found to get it to work well is to put the paint in a dropper bottle and shake the hell out of it for a couple of minutes first.

Vallejo air colour is ok but I&#039;ve found you have to keep cleaning the brush because it plasticises in the nozzle.

If you&#039;re having your air brush try spraying some meths through it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The trick to airbrushing is to use the right paint.  If you can get the Gunze Sangyo paints &#8211; GSI Aqueous Hobby Color it&#8217;s a hell a lot easier.  Bog standard Tamiya thinned with Tamiya thinners is good too.  I&#8217;ve stopped using spray primer and just prime with Tamiya from the air brush.  The coverage is better, and it has a good tooth.</p>
<p>If you want to use GW paints the only way I&#8217;ve found to get it to work well is to put the paint in a dropper bottle and shake the hell out of it for a couple of minutes first.</p>
<p>Vallejo air colour is ok but I&#8217;ve found you have to keep cleaning the brush because it plasticises in the nozzle.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re having your air brush try spraying some meths through it.</p>
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		<title>By: Stu</title>
		<link>http://www.tabletop-terrain.com/archives/2009/03/10/893/orc-border-patrol-warhammer/comment-page-1/#comment-14905</link>
		<dc:creator>Stu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 02:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dustan, that&#039;s a great find. Now I wonder if we can find a supplier in Aussie/NZ of these products, or alternately a wood varnishing product that comes close to the same effect. That&#039;s what you were using wasn&#039;t it? A coloured wood varnish for dipping?

I notice their distributor list includes an Aussie company: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.battlelinescenics.com.au/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Battleline Scenics&lt;/a&gt; and indeed they appear to stock Quickshade for $38au a tin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dustan, that&#8217;s a great find. Now I wonder if we can find a supplier in Aussie/NZ of these products, or alternately a wood varnishing product that comes close to the same effect. That&#8217;s what you were using wasn&#8217;t it? A coloured wood varnish for dipping?</p>
<p>I notice their distributor list includes an Aussie company: <a href="http://www.battlelinescenics.com.au/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Battleline Scenics</a> and indeed they appear to stock Quickshade for $38au a tin.</p>
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		<title>By: Dustan</title>
		<link>http://www.tabletop-terrain.com/archives/2009/03/10/893/orc-border-patrol-warhammer/comment-page-1/#comment-14903</link>
		<dc:creator>Dustan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 00:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had to google the Army Painter System and it&#039;s basically dipping or the various other methods of applying stain/varnish.

The have some fantastic examples on their site including the following which is very topical.

http://www.thearmypainter.com/gallery_presentation.php?GalleryId=15

Its a great idea actually, I would dip more models if I could get round to painting their base coats. Who knows what might happen after the spacewolves</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had to google the Army Painter System and it&#8217;s basically dipping or the various other methods of applying stain/varnish.</p>
<p>The have some fantastic examples on their site including the following which is very topical.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thearmypainter.com/gallery_presentation.php?GalleryId=15" rel="nofollow">http://www.thearmypainter.com/gallery_presentation.php?GalleryId=15</a></p>
<p>Its a great idea actually, I would dip more models if I could get round to painting their base coats. Who knows what might happen after the spacewolves</p>
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		<title>By: Stu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 00:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Monty, you&#039;re getting some very nice results on those Civil War figures. In fact that shot of the dry gent with the rifle looks like some of my painted Pulp figures. I have to admit I haven&#039;t heard of this system until now. It looks like the key part of their system is the &#039;dip&#039; which I suspect is some kind of varnishing product, plus you know a really good matt varnish afterwards. I know Dustan has done something similar with wood staining products in the past too.

Rob I have a cheapo knock off airbrush which I haven&#039;t quite mastered alas. I can imagine you&#039;re getting nice graduated highlights from the spray on the curved surfaces of space marines. Your use of inks sounds like the sort of thing I already do, but typically with a lot of over-painted highlights.

Thanks for your suggestions! Hmmm I feel I may have to experiment with a few figures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Monty, you&#8217;re getting some very nice results on those Civil War figures. In fact that shot of the dry gent with the rifle looks like some of my painted Pulp figures. I have to admit I haven&#8217;t heard of this system until now. It looks like the key part of their system is the &#8216;dip&#8217; which I suspect is some kind of varnishing product, plus you know a really good matt varnish afterwards. I know Dustan has done something similar with wood staining products in the past too.</p>
<p>Rob I have a cheapo knock off airbrush which I haven&#8217;t quite mastered alas. I can imagine you&#8217;re getting nice graduated highlights from the spray on the curved surfaces of space marines. Your use of inks sounds like the sort of thing I already do, but typically with a lot of over-painted highlights.</p>
<p>Thanks for your suggestions! Hmmm I feel I may have to experiment with a few figures.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Singers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Singers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 23:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m working on speed painting with an air brush.

With Space Marines I clean and air brush Tamiya flat black.  Then holding the airbrush at about a 45deg angle I airbrush a couple of light coats of German Grey.  Then when the airbrush is almost completely empty I add a couple of drop of Neutral grey and get it to mix in the air brush.  I then pick out highlight spots on the shoulder pads etc.  You get a lot of Marines painted in a very short time, with only small details to pick out with a brush.

For Space orks and I imagine would work the same with Fantasy.  I primered Tamiya JN Grey with the airbrush and then I&#039;ve basecoated with Tamiya Khaki.

The next step which I haven&#039;t got to yet is to ink black.  Paint the skin goblin green thenuse the green GW wash.  I&#039;m going to use the Tamiya weathering kits to paint the weapons and armour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m working on speed painting with an air brush.</p>
<p>With Space Marines I clean and air brush Tamiya flat black.  Then holding the airbrush at about a 45deg angle I airbrush a couple of light coats of German Grey.  Then when the airbrush is almost completely empty I add a couple of drop of Neutral grey and get it to mix in the air brush.  I then pick out highlight spots on the shoulder pads etc.  You get a lot of Marines painted in a very short time, with only small details to pick out with a brush.</p>
<p>For Space orks and I imagine would work the same with Fantasy.  I primered Tamiya JN Grey with the airbrush and then I&#8217;ve basecoated with Tamiya Khaki.</p>
<p>The next step which I haven&#8217;t got to yet is to ink black.  Paint the skin goblin green thenuse the green GW wash.  I&#8217;m going to use the Tamiya weathering kits to paint the weapons and armour.</p>
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		<title>By: Monty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 21:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you tried the Army Painter System, Stu? I found it pretty good after a first use and intend to continue with it as it saved a lot of time and frustration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you tried the Army Painter System, Stu? I found it pretty good after a first use and intend to continue with it as it saved a lot of time and frustration.</p>
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